Thanks both will give those a try.
Gary - my studies to date have been largely on myself using a continuous glocuse monitoring system and examining the effects of various meals. The target being to prevent spikes above 10mmol/l. Quickly concluded all the rather vague advice given to patients on the various approved websites really does not go far enough in promoting the obvious conclusion that the ultimate sustainable source of blood glucose is dietary carbohydrate. Committees will be worried about promoting "balanced diets". But for me the amount of fat or red meat I ate was not an issue - following a low carb diet naturally pushed me towards fibre and vegetables. Even though I took in fat as I pleased the weight still would not stop coming off long past my target of a 23 BMI. I think you will find more caution amongst Diabetologists, but the ones I work with are trialling untra low carb diets and the use of continuous glucose monitoring so I think thinkgs will get there eventually but perhaps not quickly enough to stop the current epidemic of Type 2 diabetes. These are all the informal thoughts of a non-diabetologists but it has worked for me and a few of my patients. The difficulty is getting low carb food during a busy life - it is easier to go vegan than low carb these days. So keep the recipies coming!